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Fan base a growing Raider concern

Published on December 5th, 2009
Published on December 5th, 2009
John MacNeil

Art Hauser Centre crowds consistently below break-even point for WHL franchise

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Raiders , Hauser Centre , Western Hockey League , Prince Albert Raiders , Eastern Conference.The

The attendance woes that have plagued the Prince Albert Raiders for the past two seasons are bordering on a make-or-break point.

 

That's the word from the man in the top seat, Raiders president Dale McFee.

 

"We're optimistic that it'll climb, but I think there's got to be a sense of urgency communicated to our fans," McFee said before Friday night's home game against the Brandon Wheat Kings.

 

"As a board and as a hockey club, we've taken many, many steps to try to become a more competitive team that is sustainable and competitive each night.

 

"For those fans that are coming out, a big thank you, and I think they're seeing the results of that (commitment). But, at the end of the day, to remain a viable operation in the Western Hockey League, you need a fan base, and you need attendance to show up each and every night, because that pays your bills."

 

The Raiders sport one of the best home records - 12-4-1 after a loss to the Wheat Kings - in the 22-team league and they're clearly in the competitive mix in the Eastern Conference.

 

The team's attendance numbers, however, are a glaring black mark on an otherwise promising season. In their first 13 home dates, the Raiders attracted a league-low average of 2,028 fans, or 78.6 per cent of capacity. That represented a 2.7 per cent drop from the same period last season.

 

Step right up

 

It's an ominous sign when, half an hour before the game, there's not only no lineup at the box office, there's literally no one at the Art Hauser Centre ticket windows. That was the case Wednesday night, when just 1,759 fans showed up to watch the Raiders defeat the Swift Current Broncos.

 

That followed a turnout of 1,898 fans last Saturday for a 6-1 win over the Lethbridge Hurricanes.

 

Although attendance is down across the league, the shortfall is especially alarming for the Raiders because they've suffered significant financial losses in each of the past two years. The community-owned team has lost more than $200,000 during that period.

 

"You're talking a couple of years," McFee replied when asked how long the Raiders can continue to operate under such circumstances.

 

"You can't continue to sustain losses. The beauty of being a community-owned team is we don't have to make a lot of money, but we have to pay our bills. That's the reality of it.

 

"All of our bills are being paid right now. But, at the end of the year, if we don't increase attendance, we run the risk of running deficits."

 

McFee and the Raiders are hopeful that the team's historic past, which included a Memorial Cup championship in 1985, can trigger fan resurgence in what they like to call Hockey Town North.

 

"The reality is that a lot of those (supporters) have moved on - or passed on, some of them," he said. "Our fan base is obviously seniors, and we still have a large portion of seniors, but we need to attract the younger markets."

 

Younger demographic sought

 

Coming off a couple of non-playoff years, the team has 1,477 season-ticket holders. The Raiders say they need more than 2,200 fans nightly to break even in one of the league's smallest markets.

 

With about 800 kids playing minor hockey in Prince Albert, that's a potential fan base that coach and general manager Bruno Campese believes can be tapped further.

 

"We have tried some different things, to be a little bit more family friendly, changing our start time (to 7 p.m., half an hour earlier)," Campese said.

 

"We're trying to play a little more of an up-tempo type game to create more energy. So, I don't think it has anything to do with our play, and yet our crowds are significantly the same (as last season) It's somewhat disappointing."

 

The reasons for the fans staying away have run the gamut - from harvest time to Christmas parties, and from fine fall weather to cold winter nights, but the reality is that enough fans haven't showed up at the rink.

 

"The one thing I do want to mention is that we have a real loyal fan base," Campese said. "The 1,800 that we see here consistently every night - it's loyal, it's smart (and) it's passionate.

 

"And we're not that far off - we're 300 or 400 fans a night from actually being in a very good position. That's one thing we need to recognize.

 

"This is a community-owned team. It's not a privately owned team, so as far as revenue and showing a profit, no one is trying to pad their back pockets here."

 

Attendance figures generally increase after Christmas, but the unfortunate part of that equation is that the Raiders play just 14 regular-season home games in the new year.

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    Brad
    - December 5th, 2009

    It's pretty simple....PA has, and always will, appreciate a physical hockey team. Get a few guys who aren't afraid to drop the mitts, or maybe finish top 10 in league PIMS and you might see a few more fans. PA hockey has always had tough guys, and while the team is doing good they still lack that entertainment factor.

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    K
    - December 5th, 2009

    maybe you should have thought, before hiring a clown like Don Clarke to come back here, AFTER HE WAS FIRED THE FIRST TIME. The only people to blame for poor attendance are the people in charge of the board, and the marketting people in this organization. Period.

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    Al
    - December 5th, 2009

    K... that is in the past now. The new management has made a strong effort to correct the mistakes made in the past and we are now seeing some of the best hockey we've seen in years. The game last night against Brandon showed that a big and fast team can beat a fast team which the Raiders are now. We do need some size increase but overall we more than compete with most teams. The big tough guys become a liability if all they do is fight and sit in the penalty box. This team has some terrific heart and is very entertaining. I'm happy with the progress to date but people have to get over the Clark era which is long done. Most of the Board of Directors have changed so to keep bringing up the past becomes less and less relevent every day. The bottom line is we need more fans or we'll lose the team. This is great entertainment for the dollar.

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    K
    - December 5th, 2009

    And another thing. I remember when I was a kid, there was a thing called The Raider Booster Club. Us kids would go on sleigh rides with the players, have parties with the players, and actually have the oppertunity to meet the players. One thing that alarmed me last night, was the fact that the Raider trainer was picking the pucks up after warm ups! Again, when I was a kid I would fight to try and be the one to pick them pucks up! The playing style is not an issue, the Raiders are playing great hockey, appart from last night. The issue is, the Kids are not given the oppertunity to get face time with the players. The Mascot is a joke all the guy/girl, which ever it is, stands there and does absolutely nothing. Sure he (I;ll assume it's a he) gives out the high fives, but whatelse does he do? You never see him try and interact with the crowd at all. It's pathetic. Hire a new one! (i'll take the job! Come see me im in section 6 every night) The Timbits hockey is a great idea, one of the very few that has been made. Instead of Rob going to adults with these annoying games during the 1 minute time out, go out and grab a kid to do it. The Riders do a wonderful thing, they get kids to interview a player of their choice, with their own questions, and they air it during a tv time-out. I seriously don't know who is in charge of marketting in the Raider organization, but they had better wake up. It's not a hard job, I have given you a couple of Ideas, so run with it.

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    scotty
    - December 5th, 2009

    I really think the time movement back to 7:30 pm would be a good start. It gives family alittle more time to get ready for a game. Another sugguestion is this to attract season ticket holders is buy 1 season ticket and 2nd one half price. Even 2 for 1 nights once a month even would be nice. the raiders wont lose hardly anything with these deals because alot of people buy food,50/50 tickets and merchandise. Raider prices are very cheap in reguards to concessions. it 5.00 for a lg pop here in saskatoon. Even the blades are having trouble filling the seats and they are a 1st place team. You can even hear a pin drop. At least there is exciting atmosphere in pa for hockey. one more thing Bring back the Fan buses. Go Raiders go

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    Jo
    - December 5th, 2009

    I would suggest better entertainment between periods also. It isn't exciting to see kids put on and take off hockey equipment. Check out other venues and come up with more exciting entertainment. I have been a season ticket holder for approx 6 years and not once has anyone near me been asked a question, picked as Raider fan of the night, or won a fan packet. And, we have never had the soft pucks thrown in our section. I like the idea of kids interviewing players and airing it between periods. The hockey is very good right now and the rink is exciting when there is a lot of fans there, but the bottom line is you must come up with more than the hockey for entertainment. Fill the between period time with exciting events and that will help.

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    Kent
    - December 6th, 2009

    Who can afford $60 bucks to take the kids and wife to a Raider game? Why are all the best players in the world not drafted by their home town Raiders? Instead they become the opposition. People in PA DON'T feel a connection to this team anymore. They do feel a connection to the Mintos and they can afford the $24 bucks to take the family to a game.

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      Bill
      - December 7th, 2009

      Drama sells tickets. Where's the drama and the character??? It's run too much like a business, and some of the heart and soul are gone. And slow down on the in-game announcing, etc. Sometimes annoying.

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    Pissed at many in our community
    - December 6th, 2009

    Just be reminded PA...once a WHL franchise is gone, they are gone! Markets such as Nanimo, Victoria, Wenatchee and others have (and are) building state of the art facilities and have private ownership groups knocking down the league's door to try and obtain a franchise. If Moose Jaw and Swift Current can make a go of it so can we....stop with the redneck attitude of a "tough team" is the only team this community will support, you didn't come out when PA was losing games but winning the fights a couple of years ago, then last year many were complaining the team wasn't drawing a crowd because the team wasn't winning....now they are winning and the place is still a ghost town. This club is playing some of the best hockey we have seen in nearly a decade and you won't support them....again, once their gone their gone....and I have watched SJHL hockey recently and it is terrible hockey, so enjoy!

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    westbeach55
    - December 6th, 2009

    victoria had a whl team and lost it, but i have to agree with what your saying we need to support the team. if you can't afford to take the whole family to games, go with a friend guys night out or ladies night out. kent if you have gone to a raider game this year there is a connection to the team and as far as drafting what are you talking about we have some really top notch prospects in our system another win last night in swift go raiders go

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    Justanoldhippy
    - December 6th, 2009

    Full disclosure - I am a Wheat King season ticket holder but after reading this article, the reason for low attendance is simple. It is just too expensive. I find it funny that your GM says that "nobody is trying to line their pockets" yet your season tickets are $140 more for adults and especially, $210 more for kids. (Brandon's - a market very similar to PA - are $325 and $175) I am sure that Kelly McCrimmon IS trying to line his pockets and the best way he could think of doing it was lowering season ticket prices. As a result, the Wheat Kings are averaging over 4600 people per game this season. Make it so that families can't afford not to go do the games.

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    lost
    - December 7th, 2009

    you lost me as a fan when Don Clark and the pervious manager where envloved.It will take time for fans to come back.Some may never come back as interestes change after years of mismanagement and poor coaching.You have to hire coaches not friends.Hope things turn around for the club.Hate to see them go.Don't want to be disappionted again.

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    Fraser
    - December 7th, 2009

    I agree with the Brandon bloger, the prices are to high. Whoever came up with the hairbrain idea of higher prices for certain seats within the arena can be blamed for the lower season ticket base. Go back to the one price and especially give a break for the students and child seats - this is your future season ticket base your turning away at the door prior to the season even starting. 2000 season tickets at a lower price is better then the current 1400.

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    JoPoor WorkingStiff
    - December 8th, 2009

    Yeah .... what they said! ^^^^^^^^^^

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    concerned fan
    - December 8th, 2009

    i think Pa needs to wake up and support their team win or lose! we've had the raiders for 39 years right? People worked really hard to get this team here and people need to honor that and support the team? They are playing good hockey this year and we've beat all the top teams so get out there and show them your support!

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    mike
    - December 9th, 2009

    I also agree with the guy from brandon. Lower prices. One of the biggest mistakes was not getting a new rink in this city. I would have paid more taxes to see it done rather then the patch job put on the Communiplex. Maybe raiders management needs to spend more time going to blades games, i spent 13 years living in saskatoon before moving back here and even when the team wasn't winning the activities throughout the night made it a good time.

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