Hoback responds to Idle No More rally

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Lots of consultation went into the bills the federal government is currently passing through the House of Commons, Prince Albert MP Randy Hoback said. 

Prince Albert MP Randy Hoback

Lots of consultation went into the bills the federal government is currently passing through the House of Commons, Prince Albert MP Randy Hoback said.

The Daily Herald caught up with Hoback by phone in Ottawa, on Sunday, a day after about 30 people gathered at the Margo Fournier Centre to express distaste for the Tories’ recent round of legislation.

Although they addressed a wide breadth of topics, the key points of contention were with proposed changes to the Indian Act and a perceived lack of consultation when it comes to the bills currently being considered and passed.

“When it comes to C-45 and the budget bills, there’s a tremendous amount of consultation,” Hoback said.

“We travelled all across Canada (in the fall of 2011) … going through proposals by hundreds -- literally hundreds -- of different groups on things for putting in or taking out of the budget.”

It isn’t fair to claim that the Conservatives didn’t consult with the public, he said.

“There’s just been a lot of opportunity for them to raise their concerns. Even in committee, we’ve had endless ours of extended sittings. That’s all I’ve done for the last -- well, since I came back this fall.”

Hoback sits on the federal governments Finance Committee, which has considered a wide range of feedback regarding bills, from criticism to support.

“There’s tremendous process that goes through to create the finance budget bill that the finance minister uses and the prime minster uses as guidance to create the budget (s),” he said.

When it comes to C-45 and the budget bills, there’s a tremendous amount of consultation. Randy Hoback, Prince Albert MP

As for changes being proposed to the Indian Act, Hoback said that there are no devious intentions.

“There’s talk about creating was for ownership of the property on reserves,” he explained.

“Right now for example, an aboriginal person can’t take out a mortgage on their house, because it’s not their house, it belongs to the reserve itself.

“It allows them to call the house their own, so they don’t have to worry about a chief election or a change in council or the band and being turfed out of their house.”

With their houses now considered theirs, they can make improvements and upkeep to their own benefit, “In the same way I can do with my farm, or someone else can do with the house they own or the business they own,” Hoback said.

Another section of proposed changes to the Indian Act, which was not addressed during Saturday’s rally, involves increased accountability and transparency among native bands.

“It’s to make sure they have the proper transparency in place so that we can see how they’re spending their money, and the band members can see how they’re spending their money,” Hoback said.

“It’s not meant to be overburdened or anything like that, it’s just good governance that any corporation would have to do, any town council would have to do … We’re just asking them now to do the same thing.”

Organizations: House of Commons, Daily Herald, Margo Fournier Centre Conservatives Finance Committee

Geographic location: Ottawa, Canada

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  • Yvon Lamarche
    January 02, 2013 - 00:42

    To use a phrase you can relate to: horse apples. To say that there were extensive consultations is an out right lie. As you well know C 45 contained 443 pages> 30 topics and more than 550 provisions and NO PUBLIC CONSULTATION. He states that the changes to the Indian Act had no devious intentions. Yes that's what Duncan said about the residential school policy, even after Harpers bogus apology. Further to Hobacks lies is the belief that Indians can't fix up their own houses or businesses because of the act. Nothing in the act prevents this and I know many who do; the 5% who are not dirt poor. The problem Hoback is with all the AAND Canada's red tape. Lastly the line about increased accountability is BS. Not only did Sheila Fraser the past AG say that the Feds were dead wrong on this but were responsible for it. This was further proven by the Court when YOUR government slandered Chief Spence and her administration a year ago. If I were a member of your family I would disown you. Even Deifenbaker would be ashamed of you.

  • Casey Jones
    December 16, 2012 - 16:56

    Hello I just wanted to comment on the C-45 Bill to was past. I do not believe that all areas of Canada were consulted on this. Reason, I live in the Northern half of Saskatchewan, most people here speak to issues that pertain to their lives as it has a direct effect on their life style of living off the lands. As of today we have not had anyone speak on this issues or any other. So if you would provide us with a time and place to speak to us on this, great. We would also like a copy so that we can reference from it should the need arise. It would seen that we are on a need to know base and we need to know. Such as the divine people that live south of us that are not directly impacted. So please consult with us. Thank you.

  • Sekwun
    December 16, 2012 - 16:56

    Randy is the MP in an area where there are alot of First Nations people. Not only that, an area where there are strong healthy bonds between the First Nations people and the general public as well. Seems as if Randy, is the one, that is not informed.

  • Myrna Wolfe
    December 16, 2012 - 16:54

    Quotation, Harper said he spoke to one person, when asked about who all he consulted with...

  • John Cuthand
    December 16, 2012 - 16:26

    These bills may be presented as fair and reasonable but the devil is in the details. The intent is anything but enlightened. These are bills designed not only to undermine First Nations rights but ultimately end them. The issue around home ownership has been recognized by many First Nations through certificates of possession. There is certainly a need for First Nations leaders to be held accountable. The legislation is designed to make First Nations more accountable to Ottawa then their own people. In the United States First Nations leadership is held accountable to tribal courts and by extension their own membership. The concept of consultation has wiggle room big enough to drive a Mac truck through. This is a government hostile to First Nations. There is a tactic to make black white and white black. For example Right to Work really means union busting. Property and ownership really means First Nations land can now be broken up by individuals further eroding reserve land base. The First Nations land base in Saskatchewan is less than the provincial parks and national parks combined. It is also less than the land granted the Hudson Bay Company or the railway. We also not regarded as Canadians until we were given the right to vote in 1962.First Nations also receive less than twenty per cent what he provincial schools and child services on reserve receive despite the creative math of the Conservatives. Teachers on reserve are paid less than teachers working for the province. This makes it very difficult to recruit and retain teachers. This disparity is now before the Supreme court despite the governments determined effort to stop it. I must say we have given and given until we are now told what is left doesn't belong to us. The Treaties should be seen as essential acts of Canadian nation building. It's not about race. Our treaties describe Nation to Nation people to people through generation after generation. The Canadian nation has benefited far more from treaty than the First Nations who signed. I compare First Nations distinct place in confederation in the same terms as the provinces. Distinct but very much a part of Canada. In a larger sense everyone is a treaty person. Conservative attempts to minimize deflect and project blame on the victim is not going to work.

  • shawn
    December 11, 2012 - 12:45

    this is disinformation and an insult to first nations people of PRINCE ALBERT, sk

  • estiny
    December 11, 2012 - 01:57

    Thats not the point. point is that we have treaties and rights just like others. respect them. Whos your god?

  • tom
    December 06, 2012 - 16:45

    lets keep our rights!!!!!!