Old goal for soccer centre missed
Old goal for soccer centre missed
- Published on June 16th, 2009
- Joshua Pagé
The soccer centre took a kick to its budget numbers Monday.
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- This is why I
- - November 20th, 2009 at 09:22:26
What more can I say, wow no surprise here when everyone knew darn well the soccer center was going to be way over projection.
When are the people going to elect a proper city counsel to manged your money. Waste waste waste, image selling land to three developers for a million bucks, when they are going to turn around and make 5 fold the amount on the land. The more you delay the more expensive new builds get.
Couldn't put up with the city falling apart that is why I left. Bye -
- M
- - November 20th, 2009 at 07:16:32
It will be interesting to see how much soccer fees will go up in order to pay for this facility. It will also be interesting to see how much a person will have to pay to use the other facilities in this building. If the Rawlinson Ctr and Art Hauser Ctr are self sustained, I don't know how this facility will be either. Maybe when a new mayor and council are elected, they will have better money management skills and help the city out of this mess.
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- Gee
- - November 20th, 2009 at 06:08:36
What a complete waste of money and complete lack of administering this project. I could think of unlimited projects 16+ million dollars could go towards. This city is in such bad shape - it's dirty and has such high crime. And our leaders think it's good to spend this huge sum on a recreational center. How many more times is the cost of the center going to increase before it's done? Complete waste of everyone's tax dollars.
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- zeke
- - November 20th, 2009 at 05:20:41
Correction or clarification Pat, Williams and Atkinson have been opposed to this project from day one due to a lack of planning and accountability. Don't lump them all into the same pile. What about the shortfall at the arts center or art hauser center which were not to cost us anything. Same crowd on all three funding raising schemes. Phone and ask your councilor what his veiw are, oh yah get ready to dig a little deeper, 0% tax increase, remember.
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- Help is avaliable
- - November 20th, 2009 at 01:07:12
Folks out there who are complaining that the center won't get used did you drive around the city last weekend and see that almost every soccer field was being used for soccer!! The numbers for soccer have increased and that is greatly due to the new facility being built. It will draw ppl in.
Secondly I was involved with a few charities last year and there is lots of money avaliable for kids who are underprivledged to receive money for their kids to join sports teams, be it soccer, hockey, swimming, etc... you name it. They will even provide equipment in certain sircumstances so that the kids can be involved. The only problem is that the parents don't want to apply for these monies avaliable, why I am not sure. These charities are Kidsport and the other is the one at Kickstart. These charities have not been using up all the money that they have been allotted, so parents who can't afford to put your kid in sport look into it, it is there for your use!!
Lastly I am excited for the new center, we don't want to be the only backwards city in Sask. Even Melfort is getting a soccer center if they can afford it then surley we can afford it more than them. I do agree that we need a mayor who has the best interests of the citizens in office! When is the next election? -
- Concerned Tax Payer
- - November 20th, 2009 at 00:22:16
What infuriates me about this is that we are lead to believe that the fund raising efforts for these types of projects will take care of whatever these places need, including building costs, cost over runs and operating costs. I was disgusted this year when I got my tax notice and seen the capital levy on there for this soccer centre, which I have never supported and will never use because I do not have any children. And now, because some ding-a-ling didn't know how to cost this thing properly, I am going to have to pay this levy for an additional two years, plus god knows how much more in taxes to keep this place open.
It is all about public appearances at City Hall. Look what it cost to redecorate the Mayor's Office? What next will the taxpayers of this city be asked to pay for at the whim of our mayor and some of his buddies on council? A new bridge? Oh yeah, that is something we DO NEED and we haven't got that yet, but man we are gonna have some super nice soccer centre that is costing us a fortune and it hasn't even opened yet? Perhaps in all the courses our leaders and managers take, someone should throw in a course on priorities and needs and how to manage taxpayers money. Do you think anyone would show up and if they did, would they pass the course?
Another White Elephant, just like the Rawlinson Centre and the Art Hauser Centre in my opinion. -
- Gord
- - November 19th, 2009 at 23:39:14
Pat ...come on really...to try and pin this on the Sask Party what an absolute joke. Is it just a socialist thing to blame everything on someone else. My god Pat it is the local government that is running this project no one else trying to place blame on the Sask Party is just a sick pathetic joke, give us a break already, next it will be Grant Devines fault, funny how some people are always trying to pass the buck, sounds kind of like the Lingenfelter campaign blaming an over zealous worker for signing up 1100 members without them knowing, and in typical NDP style blame some one else. Well I guess if the shoe fits......
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- Al
- - November 19th, 2009 at 21:58:31
Cheryl... I don't disagree with you regarding the West Flat Community Center although they should be out trying to fund raise as well as relying on tax payers dollars. All the other CCs are in the same boat although the West Flat CC does serve a group in need of help.
I doubt very much that many of the city run facilities are profitable if you take a close look at budgets. There will be city funds supporting them somehow whether through grants, subsidies and one time maintenance expenses. I'd be happy with close to breakeven.
I'm far happier with that than my tax dollars subsidizing police and fire services to areas withy properties that don't pay their own way. -
- stupidity
- - November 19th, 2009 at 20:38:47
And yet again amazingly good use of our tax dollars!!!!! We are all stuck footing the bill for what???? How much will this centre be used is what I wonder....I agree with other posters that maybe attention to our roads should have been first and foremost by our mayor!!!! Our city is apparently 'growing' however do you see the roads being repaired as opposed to patch jobs???? Awesome work on this waste of tax payers money! How about the soccer centre doing fund raising for the rest of the money!
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- PAT
- - November 19th, 2009 at 13:32:09
Gord my old friend, I thought it might stir your venom.
Rawlinson Centre: received feds cash. Why? Hard bargaining from the City and local MLA's.
Soccer Centre: 0.
I agree to the above comment on Haueser Centre and with you too Gord. These are local decisions and local politicians should take the axe or the accolades. Ottawa or Regina should not be asked to donate to every municpal building. But good planning means bringing on-board as many partners as possible in capital and there has been a failure on this one. The City succeeded on Rawlinson Centre but failed on Soccer Centre. Council did have a choice to not go ahead and they to do so without Ottawa on-board. Ultimately, it is their fault.
However, Hoback and Hickie and Council did not get Ottawa to support this one while Goodale and Lautermilch previously succeeded. -
- Help is avaliable
- - November 19th, 2009 at 06:23:29
Folks out there who are complaining that the center won't get used did you drive around the city last weekend and see that almost every soccer field was being used for soccer!! The numbers for soccer have increased and that is greatly due to the new facility being built. It will draw ppl in.
Secondly I was involved with a few charities last year and there is lots of money avaliable for kids who are underprivledged to receive money for their kids to join sports teams, be it soccer, hockey, swimming, etc... you name it. They will even provide equipment in certain sircumstances so that the kids can be involved. The only problem is that the parents don't want to apply for these monies avaliable, why I am not sure. These charities are Kidsport and the other is the one at Kickstart. These charities have not been using up all the money that they have been allotted, so parents who can't afford to put your kid in sport look into it, it is there for your use!!
Lastly I am excited for the new center, we don't want to be the only backwards city in Sask. Even Melfort is getting a soccer center if they can afford it then surley we can afford it more than them. I do agree that we need a mayor who has the best interests of the citizens in office! When is the next election? -
- Al
- - November 19th, 2009 at 03:49:40
Gee WHiz... if you can think of the projects, then please enlighten us.
Have you ever been to Millenium Place in Sherwood Park or the rec Center in St. Albert? Awesome places that were swamped with users.
I've travelled to many cities of comparable size in Canada and most have facilities equal to or larger than this one. I think this is a great way to keep kids off the streets and give them something to do thus reducing crime.
In fact I'd like to see this expanded by adding a wave pool and a couple of indoor hockey rinks. -
- zeke
- - November 19th, 2009 at 00:52:48
Correction or clarification Pat, Williams and Atkinson have been opposed to this project from day one due to a lack of planning and accountability. Don't lump them all into the same pile. What about the shortfall at the arts center or art hauser center which were not to cost us anything. Same crowd on all three funding raising schemes. Phone and ask your councilor what his veiw are, oh yah get ready to dig a little deeper, 0% tax increase, remember.
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- dougie
- - November 18th, 2009 at 23:15:52
This will be a nice facility but the taxpayers of this city just need to be prepared to pay through the nose for it for many, many years to come.
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- Help is avaliable
- - November 18th, 2009 at 22:47:02
Folks out there who are complaining that the center won't get used did you drive around the city last weekend and see that almost every soccer field was being used for soccer!! The numbers for soccer have increased and that is greatly due to the new facility being built. It will draw ppl in.
Secondly I was involved with a few charities last year and there is lots of money avaliable for kids who are underprivledged to receive money for their kids to join sports teams, be it soccer, hockey, swimming, etc... you name it. They will even provide equipment in certain sircumstances so that the kids can be involved. The only problem is that the parents don't want to apply for these monies avaliable, why I am not sure. These charities are Kidsport and the other is the one at Kickstart. These charities have not been using up all the money that they have been allotted, so parents who can't afford to put your kid in sport look into it, it is there for your use!!
Lastly I am excited for the new center, we don't want to be the only backwards city in Sask. Even Melfort is getting a soccer center if they can afford it then surley we can afford it more than them. I do agree that we need a mayor who has the best interests of the citizens in office! When is the next election? -
- Gord
- - November 18th, 2009 at 20:12:54
Pat I will not begrudge you tearing a strip off the sask Party when they deserve it, in this case they were not involved and do not deserve to be dragged into the mess. Lets lay blame at the feet of the city government where it is warranted its they're mess.
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- PAT
- - November 18th, 2009 at 19:32:54
Poor planning on the engineering, hello Councillor Engineer, $400,000 for unplanned footings?
Also, poor planning by our political leaders. Hickie, Wilson, Kirsch, Hoback and Mayor did not go to bat for matching funding from Harper. That $3m would look nice now, wouldn't it?
No, this Mayor and Council have been told by Sask Party operatives and their Chamber lackies to shut up and they did. Well, that's a lot of cash missed to remain silent on getting money from Ottawa.
Moose Jaw, Melville and many more city's across Canada are getting Ottawa money. This City got money before on the Rawlinson Centre from Ottawa. This is eneptitude and poor leadership by our community leaders to play toadies for Sask Party and Tory operatives and has cost us millions. -
- Cheryl
- - November 18th, 2009 at 19:07:24
Al, you're forgetting one minor detail. In order for the kids to be kept off the streets, the parents have to pay for them to join. The kids we need to keep off the streets don't have that kind of money.
One project? How about the West Flat Community Center (I know it has a new name, but I can't remember it)? It was supposed to have funds by the end of March, but as far as I know, it *still* hasn't got the money to start up for this year. Those programmes have already proven that they keep the kids off the street. This rec center still doesn't know if it'll fly without city funding, much less break even. I don't expect it'll ever make money. There's not enough of the tax base that's going to have access to it. -
- PAT
- - November 18th, 2009 at 18:47:07
Gord my old friend, I thought it might stir your venom.
Rawlinson Centre: received feds cash. Why? Hard bargaining from the City and local MLA's.
Soccer Centre: 0.
I agree to the above comment on Haueser Centre and with you too Gord. These are local decisions and local politicians should take the axe or the accolades. Ottawa or Regina should not be asked to donate to every municpal building. But good planning means bringing on-board as many partners as possible in capital and there has been a failure on this one. The City succeeded on Rawlinson Centre but failed on Soccer Centre. Council did have a choice to not go ahead and they to do so without Ottawa on-board. Ultimately, it is their fault.
However, Hoback and Hickie and Council did not get Ottawa to support this one while Goodale and Lautermilch previously succeeded. -
- PAT
- - November 18th, 2009 at 17:36:54
Poor planning on the engineering, hello Councillor Engineer, $400,000 for unplanned footings?
Also, poor planning by our political leaders. Hickie, Wilson, Kirsch, Hoback and Mayor did not go to bat for matching funding from Harper. That $3m would look nice now, wouldn't it?
No, this Mayor and Council have been told by Sask Party operatives and their Chamber lackies to shut up and they did. Well, that's a lot of cash missed to remain silent on getting money from Ottawa.
Moose Jaw, Melville and many more city's across Canada are getting Ottawa money. This City got money before on the Rawlinson Centre from Ottawa. This is eneptitude and poor leadership by our community leaders to play toadies for Sask Party and Tory operatives and has cost us millions. -
- Concerned
- - November 18th, 2009 at 15:14:23
good for him I hope the boys in Alberta give him a dirty lickin times two!
